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Which Fathers Time are we to know? Which Fathers time are we to keep?

  • The meeting covered several interconnected topics centered on Hebrew astronomy, biblical timekeeping, and the origins of modern calendar systems:

    Core Topics Discussed:

    Biblical Time vs. Modern Time

    The distinction between "Father's time" (biblical/heavenly time) versus the Gregorian calendar system

    How no man knows "the day nor the hour" relates to the changing of times and calendar systems

    The Hebrew names for days of the week (Yom Rishon, Yom Sheni, etc.) versus pagan day names

    The Book of Enoch and Celestial Cycles

    Detailed examination of Enoch chapters 72-82 describing solar and lunar movements

    The 364-day Enochian calendar with four intercalated days

    Hebrew names for the sun (Orjares, Thomas) and moon (Ansanya, Abla, Bashenes, Irene)

    How days lengthen and shorten through different portals

  • Joseph in Egypt as Zaphnath-Paaneah

  • Joseph's role in resetting Egyptian time systems

  • How Israel (Jacob) was brought into Pharaoh's house

  • The removal of Egyptian sorcery and false time systems

  • Pagan Origins of Modern Systems

  • Detailed genealogy of Greek/Roman/Babylonian deities (Zeus, Saturn, Jupiter, etc.)

  • How zodiac signs have Hebrew equivalents (Aries=Tale, Taurus=Shor, etc.)

  • The connection between planetary names, days of the week, and fallen angels

  • How January and February were added to the original 10-month Roman calendar

  • Prophecies About Altered Time

  • Daniel 7:25 regarding changing times and laws

  • Matthew 24:22 about days being shortened

  • Second Baruch describing accelerated time in the end days


Based on the meeting discussion, here are the Hebrew zodiac sign names:

The 12 Hebrew Zodiac Names (Mazalot):

  1. Aries = Tale (טלה) - The Lamb

  2. Taurus = Shor (שור) - The Bull

  3. Gemini = Teomim (תאומים) - The Twins

  4. Cancer = Sartan (סרטן) - The Crab

  5. Leo = Aryeh (אריה) - The Lion

  6. Virgo = Betulah (בתולה) - The Virgin

  7. Libra = Moznayim (מאזניים) - The Scales

  8. Scorpio = Akrab (עקרב) - The Scorpion

  9. Sagittarius = Keshet (קשת) - The Archer/Bow

  10. Capricorn = Gedi (גדי) - The Goat

  11. Aquarius = Deli (דלי) - The Water Bearer

  12. Pisces = Dagim (דגים) - The Fish

Temple emphasized that these Hebrew names predate the Babylonian, Greek, and Roman astrological systems. The discussion noted that using the original Hebrew names helps distinguish Hebrew astronomy (the study of celestial bodies as created by the Most High) from pagan astrology (which attached deity worship to these constellations).

The Book of Enoch refers to these as "the 12 leaders of the order who divide the months," representing the original understanding before they were overlaid with pagan mythology.


Based on the meeting discussion, here's the key difference between astronomy and astrology:

Hebrew Astronomy:

  • The study of celestial bodies as created by the Most High

  • Based on biblical texts, particularly the Book of Enoch (chapters 72-82)

  • Uses original Hebrew names for celestial bodies:

  • Sun: Orjares, Thomas

  • Moon: Ansanya, Abla, Bashenes, Irene

  • Constellations: Mazalot (Tale for Aries/The Lamb, Shor for Taurus/The Bull, etc.)

  • Focuses on understanding God's creation and the 364-day calendar with four intercalated days

  • Describes movements through celestial "portals" or gates

  • Represents "Father's time" - the original heavenly timekeeping system


Pagan Astrology:

  • The overlay system that attached deity worship to the same celestial bodies

  • Uses Babylonian, Greek, and Roman names connected to false gods (Zeus, Saturn, Jupiter, Ra, etc.)

  • Associates zodiac signs with pagan mythology and fallen angels

  • Used for divination, fortune-telling, and consulting soothsayers

  • Represents the corrupted "world's time" or time of the nations

Temple emphasized that "Hebrew astronomy is just difficult to get to because they have overlayered us with so much of their astrology." The Lord warned against consulting astrologers because the Israelites were meant to possess the true celestial knowledge, not the nations. Using Hebrew astronomical terms helps distinguish the Creator's original system from later pagan interpretations. WHO RESET THE TIME IN HISTORY?

According to the meeting discussion, Joseph (given the Egyptian name Zaphnath-Paaneah) played a transformative role in resetting Egypt's time system:


Joseph's Key Contributions:

  1. Reset Egypt's Celestial Knowledge

  2. When Pharaoh had dreams about seven years of plenty and famine, none of Egypt's astrologers, soothsayers, magicians, or wise men could interpret them

  3. This demonstrated that Egyptian deities (Ra, Horus, Set, etc.) and their time systems had failed

  4. Joseph interpreted the dream through knowledge from "his father" (the heavenly Father), not Egyptian gods

  5. Became Chief Over All Celestials

  6. Zaphnath-Paaneah means "over the physicians"

  7. Joseph was positioned as the celestial ruler under Pharaoh, with authority over all Egyptian deities and their associated time systems

  8. Temple compared Joseph's position to Imhotep, the first physician

Removed False Time Systems

  1. Joseph's authority removed "all authority of sorcery, fortune tellers, mediums, soothsayers, witchcraft, wizards, idolatry, and all of the works of the flesh"

  2. Joseph realigned Egypt from the "older gods" time (Kronos/Father Time) back to the original heavenly Father's time

  3. This represented a restoration of "all the rules of the Torah" over the land

Brought Israel into Pharaoh's House

  1. Pharaoh specifically requested Jacob/Israel be brought to his house

  2. This established the authority of Israel's timekeeping system in Egypt's royal household

Joseph's position predated and corrected the Egyptian solar calendar and deity worship system.


Based on the meeting discussion, Babylon changed the calendar system in several significant ways:

Babylonian Modifications:

  1. Adopted and Corrupted Earlier Systems

  2. Babylon inherited Kushitic/Ethiopian astronomical knowledge and the original Hebrew astronomy

  3. They overlaid this knowledge with their own deity worship and astrological interpretations

  4. During Israel's Babylonian captivity, the Israelites "would lose all the knowledge of what we would know of what we call our father's time"

  5. Introduced Pagan Deity Names

  6. Babylonian/Akkadian deity names were attached to celestial bodies (Marduk, Nabu, Ishtar, etc.)

  7. These names later evolved into the Greek and Roman equivalents (Zeus, Hermes, Venus)

  8. The zodiac signs received Babylonian names that predated the Greco-Roman system

Fulfilled Biblical Prophecy

  1. The captivity represented when Israel would "learn the ways of the nations"1213

  2. Daniel 7:25 prophesied: "they shall seek to change times and laws"1415

  3. This was happening even before Daniel was born, and he would later reconfirm what the Romans intended to do16

Bridge to Roman Calendar

  1. Babylon initiated the changes, while Rome completed them by adding January and February to the original 10-month calendar1718

  2. Julius Caesar established the Julian calendar in 46 AD across the known world1920

  3. This became the "confirmation" of Daniel's prophecy

Babylon served as the crucial bridge between the original Hebrew astronomical knowledge and the later Greco-Roman calendar systems used today.

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